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This isn't going to be anymore YES/NO than the others. :)

Often it is thought that the box stamp image is the proof that you have found a letterbox, however when letterboxing started the Victorians left their cards at Cranmere Pool to prove they had found it. This developed into leaving your signature stamp at Cranmere Pool, Belstone Tor or Ducks Pool as proof you had visited them. So for those who wish to count a box with no stamp, but that has a logbook which can be signed, it is in keeping with the origins of letterboxing.

One thing I would personally would never count is an empty container, even if I was pretty sure it was 'The Letterbox'. I can neither sign, nor take a copy of an image to prove I have been there and it may well be a coincidence that the empty container is there.

YT

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Often it is thought that the box stamp image is the proof that you have found a letterbox, however when letterboxing started the Victorians left their cards at Cranmere Pool to prove they had found it. This developed into leaving your signature stamp at Cranmere Pool, Belstone Tor or Ducks Pool as proof you had visited them. So for those who wish to count a box with no stamp, but that has a logbook which can be signed, it is in keeping with the origins of letterboxing.

One thing I would personally would never count is an empty container, even if I was pretty sure it was 'The Letterbox'. I can neither sign, nor take a copy of an image to prove I have been there and it may well be a coincidence that the empty container is there.

YT

Good point about the history of letterboxing YT.

If you find an empty box but put a piece of paper with your sig stamp into the box, I suppose you can count it as a find.

The only problem is that if the owner of the box doesn't fix the box and doesn't post a note on the clue page that the box is stampless or logbook-less the next letterboxer has no idea. They may assume that the box is intact because the last letterboxer posted a find. Guess it's best if a finder brings along extra supplies for such a situation - new logbook, extra temporary stamp, new tupperware container if the box is damaged.