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Re: Today is a special day ...
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #1042431 by wassamatta u
Nov 17, 2025 10:12am
Happy belated birthday š
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Re: So Who Is Lying?
Board: It's Politics as Usual
Reply to: #1042424 by Oberon_Kenobi
Nov 17, 2025 11:22am
It was actually Ghislaine Maxwell's appeal that held up the files during Biden's term. And even once her appeal was finally rejected, Sept or Oct of 2024, the files would have had to be sorted for victims' names to be redacted.
Even if Biden had ordered the DOJ to release the files then, the MAGA crowd would have complained it was a hoax to try to sway the election.
Even if Biden had ordered the DOJ to release the files then, the MAGA crowd would have complained it was a hoax to try to sway the election.
Re: Same sex marriages illegal?!?!
Board: It's Politics as Usual
Reply to: #1042433 by Wry Me
Nov 17, 2025 11:23am
Also, the failings of others doesn't make him great, which was your patently, demonstrably untrue claim.
Thatās something I get really tired of also. Bush did so and so, Obama did so and so. So Trumpā¦..yadda, yadda.
That is so irrelevant.
Re: Behind The Scenes Stuff
Board: Movie Moments
Reply to: #1042406 by MissMoon
Nov 17, 2025 12:25pm
Cool link! Thank you!
I'm a big Coen Brother's fan, too, and it's hard to claim a favorite. Probably "O Brother! Where Art Thou?", but I think that both "Burn After Reading" and "Ballad of Buster Scruggs" get better each time I watch them.
I'm a big Coen Brother's fan, too, and it's hard to claim a favorite. Probably "O Brother! Where Art Thou?", but I think that both "Burn After Reading" and "Ballad of Buster Scruggs" get better each time I watch them.
Re: Behind The Scenes Stuff
Board: Movie Moments
Reply to: #1042437 by Hurricane King
Nov 17, 2025 12:47pm
I think all of the Coen films get better with each watching.
Most of them are great in their own way. I really like The Man Who Wasn't There . That film definitely gets better with each watching.
I think I had OBWAT on DVD. I've watched it a bunch. Same for Big Lebowski.
Miss Moon - I've seen that in the past, haven't watched in a while.
Most of them are great in their own way. I really like The Man Who Wasn't There . That film definitely gets better with each watching.
I think I had OBWAT on DVD. I've watched it a bunch. Same for Big Lebowski.
Miss Moon - I've seen that in the past, haven't watched in a while.
Re: Whatcha Reading?
Board: Reading Room
Reply to: #1042313 by Orchid
Nov 17, 2025 1:06pm
I really like the Thieves World series, too! I was rereading a chunk of it last year (beginning through Faces of Chaos, IIRC). Yeah, if there's one fantasy setting I DON'T want to get dumped into, it's Sanctuary and it's scabby environs with its pesky, tempestuous gods!
Re: Behind The Scenes Stuff
Board: Movie Moments
Reply to: #1042438 by DarkZen and Evil Cow Pie
Nov 17, 2025 1:21pm
Yeah, it feels almost a disservice to not list every one of their movies. I mean, Raising Arizona? Hudsucker Proxy? No Country for Old Men? True Grit??? I haven't seen Honey Don't yet, but it's definitely on the agenda.
(Although, confession: I didn't care for Hail Caesar! Not bagging on it, just didn't hit for me.)
(Although, confession: I didn't care for Hail Caesar! Not bagging on it, just didn't hit for me.)
Re: Whatcha Reading?
Board: Reading Room
Reply to: #1042439 by Hurricane King
Nov 17, 2025 1:42pm
I agree but I also think it was very groundbreaking for the genre and I wish more people would have heard of it and read it
Re: Whatcha Reading?
Board: Reading Room
Reply to: #1042277 by wanderingjenni
Nov 17, 2025 3:37pm
Recently listened to audiobook The Secret of Secrets by Dan Brown. Really enjoyed the fascinating combination of factual scientific research and sci-fi based mystery adventure.
Event Etiquette
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Nov 17, 2025 6:30pm
Letās talk EVENT etiquette people. When you sign up for an event, and it turns out you cannot attend after all, please please please edit your signup and drop from the event. Itās not a biggie to cancel, I probably cancel close to 50% of the events I sign up for. Keyword here is cancel. Donāt just be a No-Show. And editing your sign-up 2 weeks after the event ended does not count either. Be courteous and edit your sign up and drop before the event!
While Iād like to believe itās not a malicious or callous decision, it is inconsiderate. And if you were a host perhaps you would understand that.
Hosts incur $ costs. One of the biggest cost is printing out clue packets. Itās just uncool having your host waste $$$$ on unclaimed packets! Hosts put their hearts & souls planning & carving and covering so many costs putting together clue packets, swag bags, food, catering, raffles, drinks, pavilions, venues, t-shirts, etcā¦and they never complain! So while you may think āoh itās no big deal if I donāt show upā you are dead wrong.
Letās talk about events at restaurants, no shows there are just as rude & inconsiderate. We hosted an event at a restaurant in 2023.
35 people signed up but only 17 people showed.
The restaurant assigned our group 2 servers when 1 would have been sufficient. The restaurant seated us in their private dining room but had they known our true head count they would not have. Lastly the 2 servers were shortchanged so we tipped them extra $$$$ out of our own pocket to make up for the shortage of tips and waste of their Saturday afternoon.
Again, things come up, thatās life!!! But when that happens go in and edit your signup and drop from the event, it takes mere seconds!!! And those few seconds make all the difference to your host who has spent months planning an event for your entertainment and enjoyment only to be hurt by the thoughtless actions of way too many clueless people who just donāt care.
While Iād like to believe itās not a malicious or callous decision, it is inconsiderate. And if you were a host perhaps you would understand that.
Hosts incur $ costs. One of the biggest cost is printing out clue packets. Itās just uncool having your host waste $$$$ on unclaimed packets! Hosts put their hearts & souls planning & carving and covering so many costs putting together clue packets, swag bags, food, catering, raffles, drinks, pavilions, venues, t-shirts, etcā¦and they never complain! So while you may think āoh itās no big deal if I donāt show upā you are dead wrong.
Letās talk about events at restaurants, no shows there are just as rude & inconsiderate. We hosted an event at a restaurant in 2023.
35 people signed up but only 17 people showed.
The restaurant assigned our group 2 servers when 1 would have been sufficient. The restaurant seated us in their private dining room but had they known our true head count they would not have. Lastly the 2 servers were shortchanged so we tipped them extra $$$$ out of our own pocket to make up for the shortage of tips and waste of their Saturday afternoon.
Again, things come up, thatās life!!! But when that happens go in and edit your signup and drop from the event, it takes mere seconds!!! And those few seconds make all the difference to your host who has spent months planning an event for your entertainment and enjoyment only to be hurt by the thoughtless actions of way too many clueless people who just donāt care.
Re: So Who Is Lying?
Board: It's Politics as Usual
Reply to: #1042435 by heartsquare
Nov 17, 2025 8:23pm
uneksia wrote:
I wrote:
To which dingus dufus wrote:
After that (replying to the same message dingus dufus replied to) heartsquare wrote:
Now, when I wrote that I clearly stated that if it is a complete statement that would mean that the files were releasable by the Biden administration. heartsquare clearly wrote that this was not the case.
Please get together on a single answer.
the reason the files were not released before is a legal one. you can not release files during an ongoing investigation. the investigation was closed in august of 2019 due to epstein's death.
I wrote:
For instance, if his statement is complete then the Biden administration could have released the files.
To which dingus dufus wrote:
Her statement is a complete statement.
After that (replying to the same message dingus dufus replied to) heartsquare wrote:
It was actually Ghislaine Maxwell's appeal that held up the files during Biden's term. And even once her appeal was finally rejected, Sept or Oct of 2024, the files would have had to be sorted for victims' names to be redacted.
Now, when I wrote that I clearly stated that if it is a complete statement that would mean that the files were releasable by the Biden administration. heartsquare clearly wrote that this was not the case.
Please get together on a single answer.
Re: So Who Is Lying?
Board: It's Politics as Usual
Reply to: #1042444 by Oberon_Kenobi
Nov 17, 2025 8:53pm
Please get together on a single answer.
What???
I was trying to contribute more information to the discussion. What I read about why the files weren't released during Biden's term was from Julie K Brown, a Miami Herald journalist who has done a ton of legwork for the Epstein investigation. I couldn't actually get past the Miami Herald paywall to see if this was mentioned in the link that dingus dufus had posted (possibly due to my ad blocker), but I assumed it wasn't since you were still asking.
I did assume that you were asking in good faith.
I'm not going to "get together for a single answer" with anyone else, sorry to disappoint you. It's pretty clear from all of these posts that we all get info from different sources, anyway.
Re: So Who Is Lying?
Board: It's Politics as Usual
Reply to: #1042445 by heartsquare
Nov 17, 2025 9:08pm
I did assume that you were asking in good faith.
I did ask in good faith.
uneksia wrote:
What I read about why the files weren't released during Biden's term was from Julie K Brown, a Miami Herald journalist who has done a ton of legwork for the Epstein investigation.
Here is the relevant thread again:
uneksia wrote:
the reason the files were not released before is a legal one. you can not release files during an ongoing investigation. the investigation was closed in august of 2019 due to epstein's death.
In response to that I wrote:
For instance, if [uneksia's]ā” statement is complete then the Biden administration could have released the files.
To which dingus dufus wrote:
Her statement is a complete statement.
ā” Edit to use uneksia's name in response to dingus dufus' statement.
Re: So Who Is Lying?
Board: It's Politics as Usual
Reply to: #1042446 by Oberon_Kenobi
Nov 17, 2025 9:56pm
Good grief!! Do you EVER get tired of picking and rehashing every word that everyone says? Do you have anything else to do besides scrolling, cutting & pasting, and arguing just for the sake of some point never made?
Go outside, take a walk, appreciate the fall leaves, rest your mind for a while, say hello to a passing stranger, pet a dog, get an ice cream. Take a peace break.
Go outside, take a walk, appreciate the fall leaves, rest your mind for a while, say hello to a passing stranger, pet a dog, get an ice cream. Take a peace break.
Re: So Who Is Lying?
Board: It's Politics as Usual
Reply to: #1042447 by Wise Wanderer
Nov 17, 2025 10:18pm
You know, that is what I think about many of the people here, in this group. I think you summed up the people in this forum very well.
FYI: Your presumption is incorrect. I spent much of both this past Wednesday and Friday outside, doing things like you suggested. Almost every Saturday is board game day.
FYI: Your presumption is incorrect. I spent much of both this past Wednesday and Friday outside, doing things like you suggested. Almost every Saturday is board game day.
Re: Event Etiquette
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #1042443 by Three FLAmigo's
Nov 18, 2025 2:48am
I hear you about etiquette. I worked in the wedding industry for 14 years and I heard stories similar to this one. Back in my day, there were response cards to be mailed back by a certain date - yes, attending and no- sorry can't.
My first daughter's wedding, we paid dearly. Second daughter's wedding was quite different. I made a seat assignment board. Only the names of those who responded were on the board.
Instructions to the event hall.............if people show up who are not on the board they will have to wait to see if there is room to set up more tables and they will have to pay for their meal. It did happen to a couple of people.
Sound awful? No. If you can't be bothered to return a card with postage already on it, then deal with it.
If you can't be bothered to make a telephone call, in case of an emergency, then deal with it.
The prices doubled for everything from when the first daughter married and the second daughter married.
Basic story but different chapter.
My first daughter's wedding, we paid dearly. Second daughter's wedding was quite different. I made a seat assignment board. Only the names of those who responded were on the board.
Instructions to the event hall.............if people show up who are not on the board they will have to wait to see if there is room to set up more tables and they will have to pay for their meal. It did happen to a couple of people.
Sound awful? No. If you can't be bothered to return a card with postage already on it, then deal with it.
If you can't be bothered to make a telephone call, in case of an emergency, then deal with it.
The prices doubled for everything from when the first daughter married and the second daughter married.
Basic story but different chapter.
Re: Event Etiquette
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #1042443 by Three FLAmigo's
Nov 18, 2025 4:47am
When you sign up for an event, and it turns out you cannot attend after all, please please please edit your signup and drop from the event.
This is especially nice for those of us who don't sign up for events unless we are pretty certain we can attend, so end up being waitlisted...When traveling, it is nice to be able to make plans more than a day or so in advance
Signed,
A reformed FOMO addict
Re: Event Etiquette
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #1042458 by Mama Stork
Nov 18, 2025 4:56am
As a frequent host - I watch the waitlist section. If it gets close, I will likely message folks on their local plans. Hosts can always up a number allowed and slide folks from waitlist to attending :) I've done this numerous times.
Re: Event Etiquette
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #1042458 by Mama Stork
Nov 18, 2025 5:07am
We couldnāt agree more and that was actually the impetus for this post. We have an upcoming event with a max of 30 and had a waitlist of 17.
What a tragedy it would have been for those waitlisted to miss out if 20%-50% flaked out and were no shows?
I wonāt mention a couple of events we attended recently where it was astonishing the number of no-shows. Itās an alarming trend that I believe attendees are just unaware of and the hosts are to kind to call em out.
Plus life happens! We get sick, the car wonāt start, a rescheduled Dr appt, an unexpected $ bill, the list goes on. And those amongst others are all valid reasons to cancel.
Itās this indiscriminate no-show trend without a thought in the world that this is deeply hurtful to the host.
What a tragedy it would have been for those waitlisted to miss out if 20%-50% flaked out and were no shows?
I wonāt mention a couple of events we attended recently where it was astonishing the number of no-shows. Itās an alarming trend that I believe attendees are just unaware of and the hosts are to kind to call em out.
Plus life happens! We get sick, the car wonāt start, a rescheduled Dr appt, an unexpected $ bill, the list goes on. And those amongst others are all valid reasons to cancel.
Itās this indiscriminate no-show trend without a thought in the world that this is deeply hurtful to the host.
Re: So Who Is Lying?
Board: It's Politics as Usual
Reply to: #1042444 by Oberon_Kenobi
Nov 18, 2025 5:19am
Please get together on a single answer.
It never fails to amuse me how you present yourself as some kind of arbitrator of the group. Like we're ambassadors instead of participants in a discussion. Weigh in if you have something different.
Re: Event Etiquette
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #1042461 by Three FLAmigo's
Nov 18, 2025 5:56am
I once attending an event where the host made very considerable financial and time investment PER GUEST - with customized items and just ensuring that there was enough of everything for everyone. It was the most amazing, immersive event I ever attended! She had several people ask to attend last minute, she ran around frantically purchasing and making additional items - then they didnt show up and she had extras of everything!! It broke my heart.
I had no idea she was doing this - it was a great surprise.
YES - EVENT ETIQUETTE IS A MUST. You may not know what is going on behind the curtain - it may be nothing, it may be lots. It's just basic consideration and respect for others.
On a slightly separate note - many people don't know about or use the "WATCH EVENT" button. That may be the way to go if arent really sure if you'll attend but you want to keep up with communications.
I had no idea she was doing this - it was a great surprise.
YES - EVENT ETIQUETTE IS A MUST. You may not know what is going on behind the curtain - it may be nothing, it may be lots. It's just basic consideration and respect for others.
On a slightly separate note - many people don't know about or use the "WATCH EVENT" button. That may be the way to go if arent really sure if you'll attend but you want to keep up with communications.
Re: Event Etiquette
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #1042443 by Three FLAmigo's
Nov 18, 2025 6:06am
This doesn't just happen at large events, either. I work at a local library, and we frequently have no-shows for our programs. One program had 22 people registered, and NO ONE SHOWED UP! A few people had cancelled, but most didn't bother. Thank goodness we were able to convince a family who was in the building looking for books to attend the program, or the poor presenter wouldn't have had an audience.
Re: Event Etiquette
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #1042463 by SherlockMiles
Nov 18, 2025 6:12am
event where the host made very considerable financial and time investment PER GUEST - with customized items. It was the most amazing, immersive event I ever attended! then they didnt show up and she had extras of everything I had no idea she was doing this - it was a great surprise.
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Have seen the Same here!!! Customized to each attendee along with transportation to a beautiful catered event & venue. The hosts never said a word, but there were a few of us who definitely noticed and we were heartbroken for the hosts.
Re: Event Etiquette
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #1042443 by Three FLAmigo's
Nov 18, 2025 6:29am
I don't host "fancy" events, but I've mostly given up printing clue books for people, mostly because of no-shows. My worst was 55 sign-ups as of the day before, about 3 cancelations last minute... and a total of 9-10 people actually attended!
Now people can print their own clues and only print them myself if the event absolutely requires it. I generally expect 1/3 to not attend, either dropping or not, and consider anything better than that a great turnout.
Now people can print their own clues and only print them myself if the event absolutely requires it. I generally expect 1/3 to not attend, either dropping or not, and consider anything better than that a great turnout.
Re: So Who Is Lying?
Board: It's Politics as Usual
Reply to: #1042444 by Oberon_Kenobi
Nov 18, 2025 7:07am
Please get together on a single answer.
I'll bring it up at our next weekly meeting. My turn for coffee?
Re: So Who Is Lying?
Board: It's Politics as Usual
Reply to: #1042462 by Wry Me
Nov 18, 2025 7:13am
It never fails to amuse me how you present yourself as some kind of arbitrator of the group. Like we're ambassadors instead of participants in a discussion.
And there it is. You hit the nail on the head.
Re: Whatcha Reading?
Board: Reading Room
Reply to: #1037887 by thepapermagpie
Nov 18, 2025 8:09am
I'm currently reading:
An Age of Winters by Gemma Liviero
I recently finished:
The Night Watcher by Tariq Ashkanani
An Age of Winters by Gemma Liviero
I recently finished:
The Night Watcher by Tariq Ashkanani
Re: So Who Is Lying?
Board: It's Politics as Usual
Reply to: #1042448 by Oberon_Kenobi
Nov 18, 2025 10:46am
FYI: Your presumption is incorrect. I spent much of both this past Wednesday and Friday outside, doing things like you suggested. Almost every Saturday is board game day.
What does this mean? Sorry, not enough context. Next time please cut and paste as is the standard for this milieu.
BOTW
Board: State: Georgia
Nov 18, 2025 10:59am
Congrats Artemis and Eidolon for Box of the Week! Well deserved!
Re: Event Etiquette
Board: Letterbox Chatter
Reply to: #1042466 by RIclimber
Nov 18, 2025 12:21pm
My worst was 55 sign-ups as of the day before, about 3 cancelations last minute... and a total of 9-10 people actually attended
š³ Wow thatās terrible! Thatās like a 80% no-show. Canāt help but think Iād be so scarred, Iād never host another event. Iām so sorry that happened to you. But also happy you didnāt let it get you down and you continue to host events.
